Thread:Loodey/@comment-34698072-20200213214629/@comment-44122695-20200226032619

1) Yeah I think it's hard to seperate Fi from Si because of how personal those functions are. One cannot assume nostalgia is related only to Si. I heard he made the movie nostalghia because he was homesick. I don't know what he was going through mentally as far as depression or longing for simpler times. He speaks poetically, but I don't believe that is necessarily an INFP thing.

2) Yeah I was interested to read up on it but there was nothing. I think the guy only has two interviews on Youtube. Not much to go off of.

"The intuition/intellect quote seems to me like a good description of a Ni/Ti loop. To first be swept up in the essence of an idea, and then to use intelect to justify it logically and work out its fine details is Ti not Fi."

That sounds fair. I was wondering if the intuition he spoke of was Ne. When he said "throw a spear" it made me think of probing -- searching the world to take ideas from. But like I said, the page doesn't do justice. Here is the full quote I found:

''“I make all my decisions on intuition. '''But then, I must know why I made that decision. '''I throw a spear into the darkness. That is intuition. Then I must send an army into the darkness to find the spear. That is intellect.”''

The quote has obvious Ti in it, but it's missing from the original.

"So with Bergman, it is more likely that he has either Se or Fe with the "building the cathedral" quote, less so Ne/Si. I would think Fe is more appropriate since he is able to set aside personal convictions in order to accomidate a harmonizing attitude with the world, one of the classic INFJ struggles between personal vision and worldly compliance."

So I didn't do my research before, but here is the full quote -- the context:

''There is an old story of how the cathedral of Chartres was struck by lighting and burned to the ground. Then thousands of people came from all points of the compass, like a giant procession of ants, and together they began to rebuild the cathedral on its old site. They worked until the building was completed – master builders, artists, laborers, clowns, noblemen, priests, burghers. But they all remained anonymous, and no one knows to this day who built the cathedral of Chartres. [...] Thus if I am asked what I would like the general purpose of my films to be, I would reply that I want to be one of the artists in the cathedral on the great plain. I want to make a dragon's head, an angel, a devil – or perhaps a saint – out of stone. It does not matter which; it is the sense of satisfaction that counts. Regardless of whether I believe or not; whether I am a Christian or not, I would play my part in the collective building of a cathedral.''

I see the Fe in this quote, but the original quote is too ambiguous. This isn't about how he would go against his convictions -- he is talking about his place in filmmaking. He does not want to stand out; he wants to be one of the unknowns doing his part in the overall scope of filmmaking.

Bergman on the other hand simply cannot grasp how Welles does what he does, suggesting no shared functions.

I don't agree with that. I think someone can otherstand how someone does something even if they share no functions.

Also if you want to dicuss things on another chat I would be happy to set up something like slack for this wiki.

I don't know what slack is but that's up to you.